35 Comments on “WARNING: You are being misled by dog trainers on the Internet”

  1. My 10 month old labradoodle is a good dog and very obedient until it comes to letting her outside. If she’s not on a cable she gets out of the yard and runs the neighborhood. When I get close to her she thinks I’m playing a catch me game and takes off. It took me an hour to get her. She doesn’t come when I say come when she’s out. Inside she comes when I call her.

    1. I’d ask both dog daddy is really good as well, but sounds like you need to start back all the way to the beginning/basics and teach them to stay and come to you on command. That’s your main problem right there. You’re the boss remember, but also remember that’s a family member so you have to be careful how you treat your dog as well. Running away might also be a sign it might be scared or in trouble when they come back. When they come back you must let them know they are good when they come back as well

    2. Do you train also outside?
      You have to train everything also outside on a long leash.
      Listening outside is way more difficult for a dog then inside.
      Way more distractions.
      Leave your dog on a leash.
      If he/she is not listening to you, I would not let him/ her off leash, could end bad if you’re unlucky.
      Also dog is 10 months, still technically a puppy.
      Give it more time.

  2. Hey Zak, Much respect, keep doing what you do for the good of this industry. One question, reactive, insecure, scared 1 year old WhiteSwissShepherd, if we train him to bark and quiet on command, does it help to teach as an alternative behavior instead of the reactive barking?

    1. I have a border collie who reacts to people entering our house. Not out of fear but out of the need to control the situation. Which looks like fear to other people … I have trained him to go to his open air crate in the middle of our home with the door closed for the first few minutes to observe all is okay. He is then released and people are told to let him do his thing exploring the situation without eye contact or acknowledging him. If he gets in his controlling “mode” I ask him nicely to go to his crate (meaning I’ve got a handle on things need no help) and he happily goes and sits…door open looks to me for acknowledgment that he is doing what I want. He gets a smile good boy. I release him by saying try again.
      He has been taught that observing from his crate is his job. It is beginning to transfer to other situations where I put him in a sit that’ll do on leash in public. Granted I move observation distance from the situation. Before I converse with someone gradually working my way closer putting him a sit each time. I will jackpot treat him and do puppy sit-ups to take his focus off the situation. Versus having the stranger focusing on the dog trying to treat him or drop treats. The less focus on him the faster he defuses. Why force a human on him? Let him be “watcher” Not every dog is a social butterfly. I just explain to interested parties he’d rather observe than participate. Once he understands you’ve got his back and the other person has to go through you to get his attention eventually by two or three years of bonding that builds his confidence they just lay down by your feet while you chat. His opinion of other dogs is a work in progress he’s fine off leash. Finds his niche of dogs he’s comfortable with. on leash he loses his mind so desensitization will be a little different

    1. All I said was that aversive dog training methods are not necessary and should not be used in dog training according to literally 100% of all relevant academic bodies to our profession. Aversive dog trainers cannot handle this news

    2. Zak is repeatedly ripping on dog trainers that get results and has yet to prove he can do it a better way by making a video with an aggressive reactive dog that he helps.

    3. ​@Ruth Thompson I’m generally wondering, what is your definition of an aggressive reactive dog? I feel like he’s had several videos on this very thing but perhaps your definition of this is different than mine.

  3. I don’t even care about the science, as a kindhearted decent human, i just dont want to hurt my dog in any way.
    Also the Dog daddy has to (fix) agressive dogs.
    How come they are agresive in the first place? because of the owner, the owner trained the dog wrong and made it agresive.
    There is no dog born agresive, unles a medical cause.
    If every dog is trained with Zak George’s method from puppyhood, there will be no more aggressive dogs, and Dog daddy will be out of a job.
    Not to mention that Dog daddy takes a pup off leash in a public place.
    Puppy could have run and run under a car.
    I’ve already posted this elsewhere.
    And the weak comments I get back from Dog daddy fans don’t make sense.
    There’s no excuse for having a puppy unleashed in a public place, end of discussion.
    Dog daddy is a idiot that does everything for views and clicks.

  4. Thanks for the content, Zak… you’re truly a forward-thinking dog trainer, & I’ve been referring all pet parents (who consider aversive methods) to your channel. I know dogs don’t talk, but I’m sure they’re glad somebody like you is advocating for them!

  5. I WISH I caught you live… I found your channel just 3 days ago because I got a new puppy and have been consuming your videos. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO! Thor is a rescue dog and barks and growls at my husband. I’m assuming this is because he was treated badly by a male so we plan on giving him lots of love so he knows he is in a safe place and not all men are bad people but I wanted to know if you have any suggestions for us.

    I had to look away when you showed the clip of that “other trainer.” It was so upsetting. It is disturbing these types of videos are so popular.

    Anyways, I am an obsessed RV camper and can’t wait to take Thor out so we can make lifetime memories exploring and enjoying nature together.

  6. I think TikTok is partially to blame for the crisis. You can’t show how to keep a dog under threshold and slowly introduce difficulty levels in a short form format, but you can pop a slip lead and get a dog to shut down in that time, and it looks like magic.

    1. I think it’s important to read people’s follow ups to their experience with the trainer I believe you are referencing. People who have gone to a particular trainer’s dog lessons have had life changing differences in the months after their classes. No it’s not just speaking in a very gentle voice, it is a lot of work but their aggressive dogs are living a lot better lives now!

    2. @Fromthesun Which is purely ancedotal, the science is clear; dogs that are trained using aversive methods are more likely to show aggression.
      Dog bites are increasing and have been for years one researcher john tulloch suggests that part of the problem is the influence of social media where misrepresenting a dogs body language is shown as something its not.

  7. Zak, props to you for always trying improve the lives of dogs!

    You’re clearly frustrated with the state of dog training right now though, so I highly suggest that you get back to showing us how it’s done. It’s all well and good to relay scientific literature and hope the public accepts it, but you’re up against trainers that show themselves working with dozens of dogs every year, often times even showing follow up videos with the owners that show us how the progress went over time.

    I know you’ve worked with reactive dogs too but Chop was over a year ago now. I say get back to training and show everyone how it’s done!

    Good luck with your mission!

  8. As a parent of young children, this issue feels incredibly similar to the concept of spanking children. Parents who have spanked don’t want to admit that they may have made a mistake in doing so. People who were spanked and have more aggression because of it argue that they were spanked and they “turned out fine.” Compassionate discipline requires much more mental and emotional energy and takes time–no where near as easy or immediately gratifying as spanking (or even yelling…). I guess a part of me is not surprised by the controversy because most of us see dogs as our children and don’t want to admit that we may have done them harm

    1. Not the same as spanking at all. It’s telling an out of control kid who is swimming in fear to calm down and getting their mind on other things. Zak has never had a video where he helps aggressive reactive dogs so he should stop barking. Prove it and I’ll listen to what he has to say. He’s a puppy guy. Nothing more.

    2. @Ruth Thompson helping a child that is swimming in fear to manage that fear and change their emotional state is the exact appropriate and effective response. If you think Zak hasn’t worked with “aggressive” dogs, you haven’t been paying attention

  9. Balanced dog trainers take pride in showcasing their results in short videos, as viewers appreciate them and it fulfills their ego. However, dog owners need to understand that training a normal dog is a long-term process, and it can take years to fix an aggressive or reactive dog. It’s important not to promote training methods that sensationalize these types of dogs for entertainment purposes. That’s why I don’t showcase aggressive or reactive dogs on my channel, as I aim to create educational content rather than entertainment. It’s not worth debating or challenging those who support these methods. You’re doing great, and many people appreciate what you do. I support you because there are people who need you and your method. Stay strong and continue doing what feels right in your heart.💌🤟

  10. I just so appreciate that you are taking up this topic. I know it must be frustrating but as a someone who works in the social sciences it’s so important for scientific information to be communicated to the public. You may never convince everyone, but hopefully some people on the fence are getting the message.

  11. Okay listen. I love watching your videos and it teached me a lot with my puppy. And I love to see the videos from Dog daddy (but I don’t need to use these for my own dog). I am so done that I feel like all dog trainers I am watching right now are protecting theirselves or trying to love something or theirselves. You all have your own strengths and weaknesses. Can we just go back to normal, you ignore the negative drama that is now going on everywhere. Stand by yourself, know your own worth and just continue doing what you love. If the thing you do is working and you have people believing you, just continue doing it. Not every dog trainer or dog owner needs to agree with what you are doing or your methods. Anyways your videos have been helpfull to me Zak. I just hope this whole YouTube drama about dog trainers and the discussions will be over. Doesn’t make any sense to give water to the negative seeds that are planted. Focus on the things that give you energy instead of taking it.

    Anyways, no hate here. I just hope the internet can be a little nicer sometimes. We are all human let’s be kind. :))))

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