Do I say "no" to dogs? How should you say no to your dog? Should you say it at all? How does this concept fit in with positive reinforcement training? Is "no" aversive? We need to talk about this!
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Do I say “NO”? I get this question a lot!
Yes. I’ve seen you do this plenty of times in your videos.
@Akusa Lum ohhh I havent will look out.. gonna find the video with him saying no.. hopefully, to see how and when..
Here are my current thoughts on saying “NO” to dogs.
Do you say “no” to your dog? How do you use the word “no” in your training? Do you use it at all?
If you had a child that wanted to eat ice cream and cake for all of his meals, would you say NO? Wouldn’t you set limits by saying NO, even though it would impact your child’s state of mind? Would that hurt your relationship or would that be the sensible thing to do in raising a child?
A trainer in one of my classes said is no not an action if you don’t assign it to something the dog specifically can do. People tend to use no for everything you don’t want the dog to do. No when they jump, pull, run out the door. Is meaningless confusing frustrating to both dog and human. Avoid it. Unless you assign it to one SPECIFIC response as you would sit. You say no the dog responds by falling over for example. I use uh oh let’s try again. If it happens more than once I move on to something the dog is confident in doing.
If no in response to an unwanted behavior in a social context I generalize to myself try to lighten everyone’s mood “ well that’s just not okay…we’ll have to work on that down the road. (If not possible then and there) sorry my bad.”
Hmm, I don’t seem to have that problem when I say no. The dog understands. No means, not tolerated. She doesn’t cower, cry or yelp. She understands her impulse to jump on someone, is something I do not tolerate as acceptable. It qwills that impulse by distaction, from the person in her focus to me. However change the tone, it changes the response. Say any word to your dog, hi tone and low. You will get a different response.
I try not to say “no”. If my dog has something I don’t want them to have, I say “leave it” or “drop it” (which are behaviors I’ve trained). When using a word to mean “you aren’t right, try again”, I try to use “uh-oh” or “oops”. The only time I find myself using “no” is when the situation is emotional and I’m working on eliminating “no” totally from my dog vocabulary. And when my dog isn’t “right”, I give my dog a couple of chances to get it right and if he or she doesn’t, I go back to my training plan and generally find that the dog doesn’t get it because of my mistake (not theirs).
Another dog trainer who does positive reinforcement only and is against punishment, says, “Uh oh” when a dog messes up, than she tries against
She goes by the name, “Victoria Stillwell”
She has a UK TV show called ‘It’s Me Or The Dog,’ she’s amazing and works with dogs with bad behaviors, and also teaches the owner how to be a better dog owner
More times than not, the owner is the problem
I strongly disagree. Speach is a human language. They live a dog life. They don’t know language, we don’t know dog. Its like having a Russian, talk to someone who is French. There is a language barrier. Nothing more, nothing less. Same as a Dog, human relationship. The Dog and the Human, have issues communicating to one another. Its not always the Humans fault. What if the dog doesn’t wanna do, what you ask? Your Dog is not Human, its an animal. It can learn words, but is specializes in the Tone.
No matter how trained your dog is, it doesn’t mean it will listen to you always. They do have a mind of their own.
@kangaroo4144 Well, the dog trainer also uses sounds and body language to communicate
If you watch her channel on YouTube, you will understand
And you’re right
But I was talking about how pet owners are the problem because they don’t understand their dog or make their issues worse
Again, if you watch her channel, you will understand
This is like always telling your kid yes no matter what they ask for. They’ll have horrible behavior issues in the future.
I feel it’s a little different since human children are leagues more intelligent than animals lol.
However I do agree that replacing “no” with another word or command seems redundant. Like wouldn’t they get frustrated anyways if you’re still saying a command over and over?
But I’m not a dog trainer so what do I know?
What the hells the difference between, saying No or Leave it? Does one give Psychological damage to the animal?
Speech is our language, not a dogs. They respond to tone. Try it, say Here or Come to your dog in a high pitch, then low. I guarantee your dog will hustle, in repose to the higher pitch. It builds excitement. A low tone is always though as authoritative. My children responded way different, to my tone of voice. As compared to my wifes. Animals are the same.
Puppies usually pick up bad jumping habbits, because of this. Especially from ladies and kids saying, look at the puppy!! The dog gets excited, and jumps.
If you talked to your dog in one tone. It would get confused. More so as a puppy, than an adult.
So if you child was gonna, stick a fork in a live outlet.
Or
Your dog chases a bird across the street.
How do you deal with that, just wondering?
Ya ya, the dog should be leached and you should be watching your kid. Let ‘s be real, this happens.
Do you let your kid, get lit up with electricity?
Do you let the dog, get hit by a car?
I really am wondering…
What do you do?
Haha did you read the discussion on your video yesterday? thanks for this. In life, I try not to say no to anyone for the sake of being punitive, and just make the most of my dog’s life especially. Animals are too precious, if it’s something l can avoid. What is “physical correction”? I get scared it means violence. if it’s tugging on a lead near a road.. i’m sorry everything is out the window and i’m screaming I dont even know what (“come” hopefully).. but it works because generally i’m a softie to all the dogs in the neighbourhood. when they bark I try to soothe them and say “it’s ok”. I believe my dog knows I would never hurt him and that he sees P’m afraid so the road must be bad. I saw that with a previous dog who one time ran toward the van so he would be hit, but I screamed that hard he knew why.. you could see the recognition , he turned and came right to me, and he never did it again. til that moment it had been a game for him. I believe being loving does get them to do what I want in a bad situation because they know I want good for them.
Instead of “no” we use “uh oh” or “woops” in a light, cheery tone of voice. If he seems frustrated, I switch to something he knows well, and go back to the new thing I am training later.
As if a dog knows language like people use language…. I guess the more complex you make dog training seem the more people have to turn to you for more awfully painful guidance! Words have no meaning to a dog til you assign it one and even then its just a tonal marker you condition the dogs response to. You letting human language, semantics, and emotions is wrong. They are all things you project onto dogs to help you sleep better telling yourself im such a great dog owner/trainer i would never tell a dog no. Meanwhile what could be trained simply in minutes you make the dog twist like a worm on a hook wondering why you didn’t feed it for two days so it would be hungry for your positive only treats BS training! Poor hungry dogs like why didnt i get dinner! Poor guy slept hungry so you could sleep better about your treats only methods! What a joke!